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	<title>Comments on: Visual Thinkers Ignore Stuff</title>
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		<title>By: Thomas Drakengren</title>
		<link>http://blog.drakengren.com/2005/11/30/visual-thinkers-ignore-stuff/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Drakengren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;I&#039;ve realized I understand a phenomenon 
&gt;better once I&#039;ve drawn a picture,
So do I, but I thought it was because I&#039;m *not* a visual thinker!

&gt;Anyway, I&#039;d contend that it is vital for 
&gt;our sanity and rationality to ignore most 
&gt;of what is going on all the time.
Yep, I agree. The hard thing is to ignore the right things. And still I&#039;m not convinced that thinking visually is the most efficient way of doing that. I think I&#039;m going to classify myself as a &quot;conceptual&quot; thinker from now on. That should subsume &quot;visual&quot; thinking, right?

&gt;how many of us can claim to have *no* 
&gt;traits which might be autistic indicators?
:-)

&gt;I&#039;m somewhat surprised you didn&#039;t 
&gt;capitalize on the surmised link between 
&gt;being scattered and being artistic. :-)
Well, there&#039;s definitely a link between mental illness and creativity &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/children_of_bipolar_parents_score_higher_on_creativity_test_9247&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/children_of_bipolar_parents_score_higher_on_creativity_test_9247&lt;/a&gt; so the link between being scattered and artistic also isn&#039;t that improbable, I think! :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I&#8217;ve realized I understand a phenomenon<br />
&gt;better once I&#8217;ve drawn a picture,<br />
So do I, but I thought it was because I&#8217;m *not* a visual thinker!</p>
<p>&gt;Anyway, I&#8217;d contend that it is vital for<br />
&gt;our sanity and rationality to ignore most<br />
&gt;of what is going on all the time.<br />
Yep, I agree. The hard thing is to ignore the right things. And still I&#8217;m not convinced that thinking visually is the most efficient way of doing that. I think I&#8217;m going to classify myself as a &#8220;conceptual&#8221; thinker from now on. That should subsume &#8220;visual&#8221; thinking, right?</p>
<p>&gt;how many of us can claim to have *no*<br />
&gt;traits which might be autistic indicators? <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&gt;I&#8217;m somewhat surprised you didn&#8217;t<br />
&gt;capitalize on the surmised link between<br />
&gt;being scattered and being artistic. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Well, there&#8217;s definitely a link between mental illness and creativity <a href="http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/children_of_bipolar_parents_score_higher_on_creativity_test_9247" rel="nofollow">http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/children_of_bipolar_parents_score_higher_on_creativity_test_9247</a> so the link between being scattered and artistic also isn&#8217;t that improbable, I think! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pontus Gagge</title>
		<link>http://blog.drakengren.com/2005/11/30/visual-thinkers-ignore-stuff/#comment-24</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cue is &#039;important&#039;. As a visual/verbal thinker myself, my mistakes tend to arise from having ignored e.g. a major stakeholder or usage scenario (for software architectures). Which, again, visualizations tend to be useful aids in identifying -- &#039;hey, isn&#039;t there a gap here?&#039;. 

[Visual/verbal? I&#039;ve realized I understand a phenomenon better once I&#039;ve drawn a picture, or tried to explain it to some innocent bystander or just a brick wall, or, preferably, both! If you see strangely chalked diagrams on brick walls, I may have been around...]

Anyway, I&#039;d contend that it is vital for our sanity and rationality to ignore most of what is going on all the time. That&#039;s one of the hypotheses about what differentiates autist &#039;idiots savants&#039;... But perhaps IT isn&#039;t the best environment for sanity: how many of us can claim to have *no* traits which might be autistic indicators? &#039;Attention to detail&#039; is fast becoming a popular HR slogan for IT hiring! 

I&#039;m somewhat surprised you didn&#039;t capitalize on the surmised link between being scattered and being artistic. :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cue is &#8216;important&#8217;. As a visual/verbal thinker myself, my mistakes tend to arise from having ignored e.g. a major stakeholder or usage scenario (for software architectures). Which, again, visualizations tend to be useful aids in identifying &#8212; &#8216;hey, isn&#8217;t there a gap here?&#8217;. </p>
<p>[Visual/verbal? I've realized I understand a phenomenon better once I've drawn a picture, or tried to explain it to some innocent bystander or just a brick wall, or, preferably, both! If you see strangely chalked diagrams on brick walls, I may have been around...]</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;d contend that it is vital for our sanity and rationality to ignore most of what is going on all the time. That&#8217;s one of the hypotheses about what differentiates autist &#8216;idiots savants&#8217;&#8230; But perhaps IT isn&#8217;t the best environment for sanity: how many of us can claim to have *no* traits which might be autistic indicators? &#8216;Attention to detail&#8217; is fast becoming a popular HR slogan for IT hiring! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m somewhat surprised you didn&#8217;t capitalize on the surmised link between being scattered and being artistic. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Drakengren</title>
		<link>http://blog.drakengren.com/2005/11/30/visual-thinkers-ignore-stuff/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Drakengren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha, you got me! I think I should have included in my post some indication that my opinion wasn&#039;t completely seriously intended. ;-)

But in fact, I believe that visual thinkers really *do* skip important information sometimes, but in the same way, nonvisual thinkers (including me) sometimes don&#039;t see the obvious because we didn&#039;t draw a picture of it. I think we can gain a lot by letting people with the two thinking styles work together. As long as they can accept the differences themselves, of course.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, you got me! I think I should have included in my post some indication that my opinion wasn&#8217;t completely seriously intended. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But in fact, I believe that visual thinkers really *do* skip important information sometimes, but in the same way, nonvisual thinkers (including me) sometimes don&#8217;t see the obvious because we didn&#8217;t draw a picture of it. I think we can gain a lot by letting people with the two thinking styles work together. As long as they can accept the differences themselves, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Börjesson</title>
		<link>http://blog.drakengren.com/2005/11/30/visual-thinkers-ignore-stuff/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Börjesson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a visual thinker myself I did notice a few words which I think is important (and contradict your assumptions) ;)

&quot;...they&#039;re better at ignoring unimportant things&quot;

/martin
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a visual thinker myself I did notice a few words which I think is important (and contradict your assumptions) <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;they&#8217;re better at ignoring unimportant things&#8221;</p>
<p>/martin</p>
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